The great division in Vietnam created by Canadian 2x2 (self appointed) 'overseers'

   

Post by minhthanh on yesterday at 10:51pm


 

 

CHAPTER 3 - 2010 – to the present
Continuing in The Way as Before

Golden Friends Follow the Spirit of God


Morris Grovum came to visit my parents before he returned to Canada for his treatment. They were all happily visiting together until at the end of his visit, he asked: “If Mr. Hoa died, who would lead you?” His question made it clear to us that they are all under the leading of man, and we are all under the leading of God. We used to live in Dalat for 25 years, but Workers didn’t have much time to visit/lead us. We gathered with Friends through years under the leading of God, helping and encouraging each other.

Morris G. told Mr. Bau, “I feel pity for you. You cut yourself out of the universal Fellowship.”
Mr. Bau replied: “Now I have had true Fellowship around the world with understanding through the Internet and I am full of joy. You may put your eyes on it and see…I feel pity for you too.”

Recently I received an email from one of the Friends. He wrote “It seems Uncle Hoa and those who follow him are…” We want to remind everyone that the Golden Friends (more than a hundred) are not following Uncle Hoa. We are all, including Uncle Hoa, under the leading of the Spirit of God, and we follow the footsteps of Jesus Christ in the Bible.

The Old Testament Prophets told about the Everlasting New Covenant that would come; a time when man would no longer need a human to teach them, for the Holy Spirit would come and guide each believer individually. Jeremiah wrote: Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. (Jer. 31:31-34)

Isaiah wrote: And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left. (Is. 30:21)

Originally, there were around 250 Friends in VN. Owing to the causes given above, the Friends and Workers are now divided into 3 groups. (1) Those who completely support the Canadian Overseers. (2) Those who are still in the fellowship but are not satisfied with the situation and choose to “wait and see” what will happen, waiting for a new future. (3) The Golden Friends who continue walk with God as before and do not fear what they will do, and are not under any rule of man. Many of the Friends and Workers who follow the Canadian Overseers have only professed for a short time, so they didn’t experience the Golden Time.  

There are more than 100 Golden Friends--we can't count precisely because many friends in the countryside cannot come because of the distance, their health, or their busy work. Day by day we welcome more Friends into our sweet Fellowship like the Golden Time. So for the last three years until now, we have held our own Meetings and we get on much better. We are thankful God is still reigning, taking care and keeping all of us who want to serve God with our whole heart. No one can cut off our Fellowship with the Lord. Jesus said: My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. (John 10: 27)

Currently in February, 2014 in Saigon/HCMC, there are six Meetings total, and the Meetings are divided into two groups. Five Meetings who accept all Workers--except for Uncle Hoa; and one Meeting held in Mr. Bau’s house which only accepts the Worker Uncle Hoa. There are more than 10 Golden Elders in VN who support Uncle Hoa so he can continue to offer his life in the harvest field. There are other Meetings in VN which only accept Uncle Hoa which are held in Huế, DiLinh, Dalat, Baria Suối Lạnh, Phước Long, Běnh Long.

After these experiences our Fellowship with God is more precious. Even if we have few or many Friends, we all have the same spirit, the unity and love to God, and Friends. We never want to be in a Fellowship that is not being led by the Spirit of God. God has shown us His love and His care upon us. We had always thought that we were serving God and not man. At last God has revealed to us that the Workers organisation was not His True Way and we must continue seeking our God and His Kingdom everyday. ‘The Lord said These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men.’ (Is. 29:13 NIV)

We just look to Jesus and hold His hand to step forward until the end of our lives. After reading all the messages and posts, my husband said and I agree… ‘Now God gives us the real wonderful Fellowship, with love, comfort, and understanding…throughout the whole world.’ Not many among the Golden Friends know about TTT, and the reason they left is not because they read the TTT website or know any thing about the origin of the 2x2ism. Very few Vietnamese can understand English or work with computer. We leave for not seeing the fruit in some of the Workers, not because of any website. “By their fruit shall ye know them.” (
Matthew 7:16)

Uncle Hoa wrote about his spirit-led work: Now I am thankful and happy to see Our Heavenly Father's hand working on our side. Our VN friends could tell you what going on in VN concerning the blessings from the hand of our God. Those big smiles you see on their faces in photos taken at various places are completely genuine, no making up at all. I am thankful so much for the great inspiration which I consider as a very considerable reward and great privilege to be in close fellowship with those you have seen in photos taken here and there. Each of them owns a very clear-cut attitude, and a very brave decision of being with the minority rather than the majority. If the Spirit of God doesn't move them, they surely can't go thus far. Human being is mostly a coward. I highly appreciate the freedom in Sprit that the Lord grants to me in His Name and in His Service.

Some have asked about our future: “What are you going to do after Hoa has passed on?” After Liberation Day all the foreign Workers left VN. As for me, they passed on from that day because no one among them returned to VN to preach. What did we do after they all left? The Golden Time proved to people all over the world that God can and has led us all through these years. We’re still in God’s hand and he plans for us, so we don’t need to worry about what we are going to do. Just like when the Workers left VN in 1975, we trust in His Mighty Hand, and that is how we will go on now…God will take care of us in the future.

When asked: If all the Canadian workers go back to their country, would you return to the fellowship with 2x2s? Xuân Hoŕn’s answer was: We all love the Friends and Workers, we love their souls. Now we know the truth, we do not accept the religion of Overseers any more. We desire God rules and leads our lives--not Overseers.

We trust and believe in His love and care just like Psalm 3:1-6 - LORD, how many are my foes! How many rise up against me! Many are saying of me, “God will not deliver him.” But you, LORD, are a shield around me, my glory, the One who lifts my head high. I call out to the LORD, and he answers me from his holy mountain. I lie down and sleep; I wake again, because the LORD sustains me. I will not fear though tens of thousands assail me on every side.”

Some months ago I received an email from a person who had followed this situation very carefully. He was very sad to let me know that: ‘It seems the responsible Workers didn't want to solve the problem!’ This is the reason why we have to speak out...so everyone can understand clearly our choice, our situation, and the reason why things are the way they are in Vietnam. As Hymn 372 says…

In the warfare we are waging for the truth and for the right,
When the conflict fierce is raging with the power of the night.
God need Workers brave and true; May He, then, depend on you?


THE END.

Approved by: Nguyễn Minh Thanh, Xuân Hoŕn and Nguyễn Huu Bau
Email contact:
hoanthanhbn@gmail.com
Date: February 24, 2014

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