It has become 2x2 policy to accept dishonest motivation to enable the politically inspired character assasination that will convince membership to at least silently 'look the other way', when they actively choose to beat victims unmercifully into the ditch.  Another example of this completely anti-christian  2x2 policy is found in the story of Marg Magowan in http://www.anotherstep.net/summary/constructedfilth.htm

The following story here is a perfect example of this ugly organizational technique.

After the Singapore convention 2009 with the question of two overseers… We had paid a lot of money for the fare of my parents, my sisters, could go together with me and my daughter & her son. It’s the first convention my daughter attended, but she had to go through many sad experiences that she decided “Never go to any convention again…” 
Not only seeing the friends trying to had good places for staying in the convention place, in spite of the old ladies or the babies!... but also seeing the sister workers just only attach exaggerated importance of outside, not inside!... 

(It’s better let my daughter tell her sad story, facing with sister worker !...)
She felt disappointed...

Special meeting in VN was the beginning of 2010, we had privilege to welcome workers as well as many others friends with full of joy (Just a little sad with miss E.M who had spoken hard words to uncle Chau, when she saw uncle Châu staying at my house for taking an afternoon nap.
Maybe she (Canadian elderly sister worker) knew in advance uncle Chau no longer would be in his work !...)

Morris G. had left a big suitcase at my house… saying “I’ll return in a month”. 
By this time all the elders was announced to go to Saigon for the elders meeting with workers… next month.

We never knew or could image it was the big meeting with all elders, all workers (except uncle Chau), overseers and guest workers from USA, Japan, Indonesia… to chase our local worker (Chau) out of his labor !...

Three visitors spoke in the meeting, they all praised uncle Chau was a lovely, friendly and humble worker … 

But he had to leave the work for “Solving the selling of the house”.

From that time he wasn’t allowed to have any activities on the church, even leading the meeting, although there weren’t any workers in that meeting!...

They prevented my husband speak out, because they knew for sure that it was a lie reason . As I had mentioned, all the paperwork relating to the selling of the house was completely done on 3th of December 2009, The elders meeting was hold three months later. 
You see, Uncle Dale and Darrel told a lie to all friends and workers and guest workers (Tsutomu Miyata, Simeon Sarmiento). Uncle Châu didn’t have to do anything more until under the pressure of friends he was permitted to restore his place again, secretly without any announcement. The presence of guest workers just simply decorated the action of Dale Schutz and Darrel. In that meeting, we only heard the praise of uncle Châu from the guest workers. 
Just a few months later, day by day Darrel exposed his malice, stopping the work of uncle Châu to solve the house was only an excuse (a lie). He wanted to expel uncle Châu permanently, not accepted uncle Chau back to the work. He tried to make up bad story telling to elders as if they were true happenning !... (Involved my family to their victim with uncle Châu) 

Sadly that many workers and friends believed it, because it come from the overseer !... Not only believed it, but also try to find and search things against our local workers, just only showing to others that they are real sinners.  

(Sharingtheriches… I have read your father’s lie, I can feel how painful in your heart before the lie from one we should respect!) 

When we were back to Dalat last 3 days…

One sister friend told us she was disappointed with these sister workers… The sisters were cooing confidences to elders from Darrel’ side, even in the special meeting time… Whenever seeing her coming they immediately kept silent… There was a very heavy asmostphere in the meetings… 
At last the elders asked our friends to choose which side or out of their fellowship. 


Our two sister friends were too happy to choose being continue with the leading of God. Our older sister had 50 years faithful, sharing , through this hard condition, she felt growing in her faith, and closer to God, thanks for the happening help us know our needy, being with God than with man. 

 

From an earlier letter from Minh Thanh (Dec 16th, 2013)

Darrel is really an astray driver, he forced uncle Chau to sell the house but he never knew who was the real owner.

There are four houses belong to Vu' family stand successively. As I had said, two family have had long relationship since the time in Protestant church. We came to these houses many times for singing... and seeing Mr Hien's children grow up. 

After paying all the money, I had an email from Mr Hien send to me and The Vu’ family members saying. I copied and pasted that letter then I translated into English

From: hien rua [mailto:vuhienrua@gmail.com]

Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:44 PM

To: hoanthanh

Cc: Ngoc Chau; Samuel Nguyen; thuynga; vuthithuyhien; vuthithuyhien; vutrunghoa; Nha Doan Van Bo; Vinh Sinh Nguyen

Subject: Re: Cám ,n anh...

Hai em Hoàn Thanh,

Anh chị Vũ Trung Hiên xác nhận với hai em, và mọi người , rằng căn nhà 19 Cư Xá Trần Quang Diu, F.14, Q.3 này, kể từ hôm nay, hoàn toàn là của hai em.

Anh chị xin cám ơn Anh Vu Ngọc Châu, hai em Hoàn Thanh, và anh chị Thành-Hằng Nga đã giúp cho việc chuyển nhượng căn nhà này diễn ra rất êm đẹp.

Mến chúc hai em và các cháu luôn được vui vẻ, bình an, mạnh khỏe dưới mái ấm căn nhà đã từng ghi nhiều kỷ niệm của anh chị, hai cháu Hiên-Hòa và các tôi tớ Chúa.

Thân mến,

Vũ Trung Hiền & Thúy Nga



Dear Hoàn Thanh,

My wife and I Vũ Trung Hiền would like to confirm with Hoàn&Minh Thanh and everybody that the house at 19 CX Trần Quang Diệu, F.14, Q.3, from now on, belongs completely to both of you.

My wife and I thank to brother Vũ Ngọc Châu, Both Hoàn & Thanh, and brother and sister Thành-Hằng Nga has helped to the transfer of ownership of this house smoothly, beautifully.

We wish both of you and the children to be always joyful, peaceful, healthy under the cozy roof of this house which had impressed many memories of two of us, our children Hiền Hòa and the workers.

Love to you,

Vũ Trung Hiền & Thúy Nga

Now I am living between two uncle Châu niece' houses. (The Vu family)



We can't understand Darrel' work. He used his power to ask workers and friends doing things as he wanted. Didn't mind it reasonable or not !... 
 

From another TMB post 2013-12-17

While two sister workers in the South prevented not allow friends come into the house. There was an email sending to uncle Chau inbox, made him very headache. 

Saying: Please don’t sell the house to Hoan & Thanh. Because it should wait until three years.(Because of this email, I didn’t continue to buy that house).


There was a couple want to buy the house, for their younger sister living (the wife is my relative too). From that time we didn’t mind anything happening to the house.

It was near the special meeting time, my older sister said to me “Oh, they had prepared very nice places for workers staying”. I felt happy beause of it. VN friends always do their best to welcome workers… especially this family, they served and welcomed all F&W with all their heart. Workers had gathered at their house very often.


When uncle Hoa returned from Cambodia, he was terribly sad to inform to uncle Châu (in China) That the friend who wanted to buy the house, had move out everything in the house, lost many papers and precious belongings… It was very sad to our local workers. We didn’t know the reason why… 


They had asked uncle Châu permission to come in, even they hadn’t paid any money yet. Uncle Châu agreed with them, but warning that “Don’t touch any things belonging to uncle Hoa”… 

That was the first reason making uncle Chau not want to sell the house for them any more. 


For they disagreed with the price Darrel had offered to me… They asked one person to explain the lower price to Châu. But he didn’t mind… He said: I didn’t want to worry about the selling of the house, I’m busy with my labor in the North, my two nieces nearby could hear and give the decision. (But, they didn’t want to talk with uncle Châu nieces, it caused both sides disagree to findout a price.)


The sister living in the house was a young unmarried lady, it hard for both of Chau & Hoa staying there, whenever they returned or asked by the government. While their registered family book and the address of The VN church is in that home. That one more reason uncle Chau refuse selling the house to them.


After the special meeting, we invited uncle Châu staying with us a few days. Exactly the time he was 42 years in the field, we were going to have a meal only in the family with him. Thanks for God had kept him faithfull in the work of God. It was also the day the landlady of the renting house infomed us that she would like to take the house back, and would compensate to us as in the contract. I felt terribly sad and worried… 

Because uncle Châu was there, and witnessed everything happening to us… I had to accept with the compensate money, but felt tired for the moving…!. Seeing and understanding our situation. 

Uncle Chau asked us… “How are you going to do…?”

I replied: “I only want to go back to Dalat, a peaceful place for me…”

Uncle Chau said: “ What’s a crazy thought… you would live in Dalat while your husband and children are staying in Saigon with their works and studying… impossible !... You should buy my brother’s house.”

My answer: “No, no… they are my relative, I don’t want to dispute with them.”

Uncle Châu: “I will phone and explain to them…”


Every thing would have been OK if the workers had not interfered into the business. (Especially the sister workers !...) The workers caused many problems, and made up many bad stories between uncle Châu and me… (They wanted to smear uncle Châu, and destroyed my family happiness!... )


Even I asked a meeting between us, uncle Châu… and my relative. I had asked to Nhung, Darrel, and even with overseers who came to solve the problem… as in the Bible had taught… but never had a gathering as we asked !...(They didn’t want to obey the teaching in the Bible because it would disclose their real face) 


Mathew 18: 15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.”

My relative told me that at the bottom of her heart, she wasn’t sad with us. Otherwise Darrel and sister workers said there was problem. While we asked them to have the gathering to solve the problem, they disagreed to arrange a gathering. 

Here you see the problem was caused by the workers, perhaps the buyer was not the right objective they wanted
.


Even Darrel with his staff came, and questioned us many times in order to discourage us not buying the house, but with the agreement of our two local workers we continued buying the house… In spite of Darrel agreed or not… It wasn’t his house !...


We and uncle Châu (represented for his brother) signed in the paper the agreement of selling&buying before the government office on 3rd December 2009 with the price 80.000 USD as Darrel had raised. 
It was the time uncle Châu back to Saigon for Singapore Convention 2009.



A long story for today… 

We will go to Dalat for 3 days, and continue telling the truth… after returning.
 

From a TMB post 2013-12-17

Under Darrel rule... We could not go to other fields to visit without the permission of the responsible worker of  that field. We also couldn't invite or ask advice of any other workers. Everything have to ask permission of the worker in the field first. Through them send the invitation to others (Of course with their witness too). We lose our freedom...
No... the law in my country give us freely to go... and free to invite anyone we want...

From a TMB post 2013-12-16

have fallen into a deep sadness, when remembering the situation had happened to me… Anyway, as I had promised I would continue telling the truth…



After having agreed from Darrel, we bought air plane ticket for uncle Chau back to Saigon for a discussion.

We really wanted to buy Mr Hiền’s house, but we didn’t have enough money yet (Mr. Hiền is uncle Châu’s youngest brother, he is the real owner of the house)

* Almost my money was stuck on the contract of renting house in three years, but it just two months went by... Whoever breaks the contract had to compensate to the other side more than 2500 USD. I had to wait until finish living three years in that house. (It’s a big and confortable house with 5 bedrooms, many F&W stayed there sometimes.)

* I had to sell my house in Dalat in order enough money to buy uncle Châu brother’ house. It took me time.

* We had to work harder to earn more money for buy the house.

After discussion we agreed together that…

Within three years, let the friends stay there as uncle Chau had promissed with them. After three years I would finish all the money and receive the house.

Suddenly, Darrell gave an appointement to meet us. 
Then 5 of us sitting together (Darrel, Colin, Chau, my husband and me).

Starting the conversation with a cross-question. Look at me Darrel asked:

”How do you feel, when receiving a gift from a worker worthy 80.000 USD”

We all shocked with Darrel question, we didn’t know why he raised that question. It wasn’t uncle Chau’s house, how could he give it to me?

While we were still surprised with his cross-question, Darrel continued…”This morning I had search on internet the price of the selling house is 80.000 USD”. Uncle Châu hadn’t given us the price (maybe he waited for his brother’s decision) But Darrel already searched and given the price in a strange way.

(Please remember his cross-question, it starts with many terrible made up stories after !...)

I gave an explanation to him that… We invited Chau back here for buying the house, not receiving a gift… 

I will never took the house as a gift for I didn’t want my children being a sinner ln case they would sell the house when I passed away.

Four reasons that I wanted to buy the house…

1. I had tired with moving house to house… since we left Dalat move to Saigon.

2. I wanted to live near my parents, looking after them because they are getting old.

3. Keeping the registered family book for Chau & Hoa, and they can continue stay there with us any time they return to Saigon.

4. Two big family (Vu & Nguyễn) has long relationship more than 50 years. My grandmother was friend of uncle Chau parents, His brothers and sisters also my parents friend, and now uncle Châu nieces become members in Nguyen’s family. One is Mr Hien’s daughter… So I wanted to buy this house, and I would have opportunity of welcoming them whenever they(Châu’s relatives) back to VN for visiting.

Then we and many young friends had a gathering for singing before uncle Châu went to Hanoi again. He made an announcement to more than 20 friends that “Hoan & Thanh is the first candidate offering to buy this house”.

Uncle Chau also permitted some friends to move in, stayed there for three years as we had discussion.

The happening did not go smoothly as we wanted, when uncle Chau went back to Hanoi, sister workers came and ordered the friends “No one stay here…” They prevent the friends not to come in to stay…
Maybe Darrel' order.

I think it enough for today…




 

Regarding friends returning to the Canadian governed organisation
From TMB 2013-12-15

Yes, there are some... 

to rejoin the meetings which remain under the worker's control and are now in those meetings. 



Almost of them obeyed Uncle Châu advice just because of their love to uncle Châu.

I have had written a long story about them here, but I was afraid to post... I have erased it.

The facts were… sadly to say… I don't believe they have satisfied with their choice. 



One man is brother of two sister workers, now he is still using very bad words when he speaks about Lyle, Darrel and some elders too !...



Recently, one lady returned with the message sent to golden friends from her mobile phone "I don't want to make anh Chau sad and cry, it may cause him being blind... "  Uncle Châu being ill with his eyes.

After her returning to their fellowship, uncle Chau forward her apology letter sent to him to many friends, except me . (It was like a demanded letter. Maybe he was afraid of my reaction with the untrue things in her letter !...). 
Somehow friends FW it to me  I have read it.

This lady is my relative too, one year older than me, unmarried ! 
We studied the same University and worked in the same company some time. (I had met a little trouble in working with her, because in order of relationship, she is my aunt, but in working she had reported her works to me.) I did know her, and understood her manner too... 

I'm afraid to put her name here, who knew her may rock with laughter because of her anxious... to uncle Châu.

Some others obeyed uncle Châu advice because he said “This is The True Way… God will be sad seeing the separate among the friends…if you have the fellowship with Hoa, not with other workers and friends”

Uncle Chau had sent a letter to friends, with an advice from a worker “Let obey, even things happening seem not right…” 

Reading his letter, I feel terrible to remember in Proverbs 14:12 There is a way which seemeth right unto a man; But the end thereof are the ways of death.

I had replied to him “Before God just only right or wrong, if anything seems not right, I would like to have an explaining to prove… It’s right, then I will obey.” 

I haven’t had any answer from him !... 



I’m going to tell you the story “Uncle Châu has a house…” 

The main point made use of it to chase uncle Châu out. Made overseer & workers to be a liar to God' people.
 

From a TMB post 2013-12-16

I would like to get an overall picture of the movements people are making. Approximately how many do you know who went back to the meetings? Of those, how many do you know made apologies?


There are two unmarried old lady return after attended our gathering two times, not because of seeing these workers are right, but only obey uncle Chau advice, they still disagree with many things happen, and look forward a new page.


Recently one more unmarried lady (my aunt) returned, wrote an apologies letter through uncle Chau. It seem she want to please uncle Chau or by Chau asking her to made apologies, because in the past she had said many bad words to workers (Nhung Vietnamese sister & Lyle). It’s a long story from this lady I don’t want to tell more detail here.


And a man (brother of two sister workers), in their fellowship, not being with us, but met a very serious problem with these workers. He came to our house just want my husband back to that fellowship, cooperate with him to against them. We never want to throw stones in the meeting… (The fellowship with God must be pure with true love and unite). Uncle Chau had visited him, then he change his attitude, being a childlike and made apologies with uncle Lyle by mouth, they both shed tear at that time. (He told us). But gradually it seem things not go smoothly as he wanted, now he use the bad words for them again. 
He came to my older sister very often, because he knows that couple being in the fellowship but not agree with their acting, the same as him. (My sister said to me “I'm being because there are still many good workers and friends).

That man go through a very bad situation by workers, he now didn’t believe or trust in them. I didn’t know if uncle Châu had promised any spiritual help for him or not, but after Châu went to East Timor he also complain Chau again…

We not only know every details of his situation but also keep his record with the matter happen to him (His requested). But it isn’t mine, so I better not mention here.

That all. (Only two made apologies ).


 

A link to some of the letters regarding this issue