Broken Trust

Other posts the end of January 2014

Darrel Turner, overseer, kicked uncle Châu out of work, and I know Darrel wanted to kick him out permanently. This information I knew from the Vietnamese teacher of Darrel Turner.
God's people waited for a time (after 3 years), they saw these Canadian worker continually badly behaved uncle Chau, they have reaction.
Uncle Hoa didn't agree with this Canadian Overseer many things and he knew that sooner or later he would have the same fate as uncle Châu. Furthermore, he had read TTT website and knew the truth about 2x2, he boldly left out 2x2 and didn't cooperate with these Canadian workers any more.
By the reaction of God's people and uncle Hoa, they have to solve the problem by demoting Darrel Turner and sent another Canadian overseer, Lyle Schutz, Dale's brother to Vietnam. Lyle Schutz restored the work for uncle Chau furtively and sent him immediately to Cambodia. But some friends visited him in Cambodia, when returning they said uncle Chau stayed in Cambodia like a babysitter because he couldn't speak Khmer, so he taught English for many young boys and girls as a babysitter. And his companion is an Australian worker,LIoyd. LIoyd has an age worthy his son, but Lyle Schutz set Uncle Chau under LIoyd's control. It's a shame.
Due to many Vietnamese friends could visit him, Cambodia has the same border as Vietnam, they sent uncle Chau farther, to East Timor, this place they don't speak English, they speak Portuguese. This country allow visa only 6 months. After 6 months, Lyle Schutlz sent him to Australia. And he preached in Australia and had a convention tour there. Then he was absent too long from the country, policeman ask him to return. He has returned to vietnam and Lyle Shutlz has a plan for him to go to cambodia again.
My question is: Why the Vietnamese people need him to preach the gospel? I think Australia has a lot of workers,if there is a need to have more workers, I think some Canadian workers are staying in Vietnam can have a better job preaching in Australia because they have the same language than uncle Chau.
And if he goes to Cambodia to be a babysitter, it is a waste, isn't it?

Hi Nathan I want to say the same as you…

“ If I were in uncle Châu’s position I would follow uncle Hoa's example.”

All you have said proving that you don’t know well what have been happening in VN. You just heard from F&W in 2x2 and spoken for them, especially for uncle Châu, too. If you know in details every thing uncle Châu has been facing till now. You would never want follow Châu’s example.

Uncle Châu has asked me please don’t post what I have told you, or my situation into internet, for I will be misunderstood with my brothers (He means brother workers), reading what you post will make my family being crazy !...

So it is better bypass uncle Châu aside, he said he is getting old, he needs peace !... His manner too soft to bear many things like this. But I hardly hide his family how badly they treated to him… Because his brother and sister (my teacher) skype to me very often, I don’t want to cover bad things.

Time will tell about Hoa and the golden friends future... What are they going to do when Hoa passed away. Do they know what they are going to do after Hoa has passed on?
After liberation day all the foreigner workers left VN, as to me they are passed on from that day, because no one among them return to VN to preach.

What were we going to do after they all left. The golden time had proved for all people over the world knowing that God had led us through these decades.

Do they know what they are going to do
In God’s hand, and his planing for us, we don’t need to worry what are we going to do, God’s plan is perfect for us, we trust in Him.

It was working beautifully when they were in charge of the work in VN. They go every where looking, finding the lost souls.
Not only you, but every one can see the result when we put our life and trust in His Mighty Hand.

Doing what Chau and Hoa did can burn out a person real quick, because of the hardships they endured for many years they have no problem at all.
God has given His strength to whom who serve Him with all their heart. We see clearly the more dificult they face with, the more joy they win, and the fruitful work they get. I do bet with you that uncle Châu now wishing to be back in the golden time, under the leading of God as He said inMatthew 11: 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” (man yoke quite different).
This is also the answer why uncle Hoa wants to wear God's yoke than man's yoke.

Nathan, is it the clearly answer to you that how we will go on… God will show you the answer how He takes care for us in the future.
We trust and belive in His love and care.

And here is the answer for you (Nathan) in The Bible

Psalm 3

1 LORD, how many are my foes!

How many rise up against me!

2 Many are saying of me,

“God will not deliver him.”

3 But you, LORD, are a shield around me,

my glory, the One who lifts my head high.

4 I call out to the LORD,

and he answers me from his holy mountain.

5 I lie down and sleep;

I wake again, because the LORD sustains me.

6 I will not fear though tens of thousands

assail me on every side.

if uncle Hoa were his senior companion then he must obey/listen to him.
Nathan, What you said just the right in method or in other countries not in VN. Now uncle Chau has the opportunity to help a young worker, his age as if uncle Châu’s son. He is under his control. The same as Miss Mai Hoa too, has to obey the younger worker whom the overseer trusts.

In my opinion, Hoa should have obeyed his overseer's guidance
Nathan... Overseer not doing under The Spirit of God, how can you persuade uncle Hoa to obey him. While you are saying I too strongly disagree with how Darrel had mistreated, and removed our two native workers! are you contradicting with yourself !...

the pictures of Darrel running around on that bike has two completely different effects on his two countries.
I didn’t know how Darrel and Morris show in their country, but in my country they are likely as a wealthy businessmen ( a big shot). No friends in VN ride an expensive motobike as them. We are very afraid for their security , because the robbers often attack and kill the people riding SH motobike.

Post by minhthanh on 16 hours ago

CherieKropp said:

Minh Thanh wrote: Darrel Turner, overseer, kicked uncle Châu out of work, and I know Darrel wanted to kick him out permanently. This information I knew from the Vietnamese teacher of Darrel Turner. God's people waited for a time (after 3 years), they saw these Canadian worker continually badly behaved uncle Chau, they have reaction. Uncle Hoa didn't agree with this Canadian Overseer many things and he knew that sooner or later he would have the same fate as uncle Châu. Furthermore, he had read TTT website and knew the truth about 2x2, he boldly left out 2x2 and didn't cooperate with these Canadian workers any more.

Minh THanh: I think I remember you writing me that Uncle Hoa had read TTT about 5 years ago??
And that it wasnt recent that he read TTT?

Yes, that's right. He read ttt 5 years ago.

And in 2013 he told my husband seached in google " two by two" and when my husband read "the transfer oversight letter of uncle Fred Allan, and he saw at the bottom of the letter a list of names which uncle Fred forwarded the copies to.
My husband noticed the name Eldon Tenniswood, Willis Propp, Paul Sharp...He googled Eldon Tenniswood and he knew The Alberta Excommunication, then we was able to contact Edgarmassey and he gradually discovered the website Telling The Truth. My husband was very glad to see that the issue of Vietnam was not lonely, and he translated the letter of uncle Bob (father of sister worker Margaret") and shared it to friends and workers.

minhthanh

I didn't know how uncle know about TTT website. A few months before, I had asked uncle Hoa:" may I post his heart letter into TMB board and send to Cherrie as her required". He agreed and said "Say hello to Cherrie and thanks for her hard working, said to Cherrie that I had read her website 5 years ago. Her writing helped me decide to leave for seeing things happened in VN, just the same as many things she had written." That all I know about uncle Hoa concerning to the TTT website. You may ask him. While uncle Hoa left the work and fellowship, we all still in the fellowship with friends. Until uncle Lyle tried to find a reason to stop the fellowship (church) at my older sister house, where we and my parents took part. Now there is only my youngest sister house still have the church, her family is a biggest help for 2x2.
We don't remember when we left, maybe after uncle Hoa left more than a year.
With us the origin is not very important. the importance is what kind of fruit we see. Is that the Spririt's fruits or not?
One time my daughter said that:" if there hadn't been the mess happening, she wouldn't have believed what she could read on internet or The Telling The Truth website.
Not many among the golden friends know about TTT, and the reason they left not because reading on TTT website. Just very few of them can read and understand English.