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The extent of the fallout from
official 2x2ism
Post by minhthanh on yesterday
at 10:51pm
Oh ...... a lot of them are awake and well
aware of what is going on. I think that some of those
overseers are starting to feel the pinch. So far, these
overseers are so stuck on themselves and their
self-appointed place in the church that they probably
think that they are going to be able to weather the
storms that they create. However, the cost of weathering
the storms they create are going to just continue to
erode the church worldwide.
It is the declining gospel meeting attendance, and the
closed homes that will finally get their attention.....
perhaps. Once they look at just who they are losing, and
who is skipping meetings will they hopefully understand
just how bad the situation is becoming. They are losing
the support of the wage earners, and those who have
homes to stay in and hold meetings in for the future
health and continuation of the fellowship.
Another thing that they probably aren't really
understanding is the number of elders who no longer
support them. These are the people leading the
fellowship meetings, which are the backbone of the
fellowship. These elders will be the ones that influence
the future of the church.....if they stay in that is.
Their testimonies in Sunday morning meetings, along with
the testimonies of others who no longer support the
'system', are about Christ, and about scripture. I am
pretty sure that many of those professing people here on
the TMB are the ones who are giving testimonies in their
Sunday morning meetings that never refer to 'when the
workers came into their life', or have anything to do
with workers.
These are the people who are going to be affecting what
the fellowship is going to be like in the years to come.
 Minh
Thanh Yes, we are about 10 elders and about
100 friends with one truely worker still going on the fellowship
with God after seeing as The church in Ephesus in Revelation
2:2
2 I know thy works, and thy toil and patience, and that thou
canst not bear evil men, and didst try them that call themselves
apostles, and they are not, and didst find them false;
We don't want to cooperate with evil men with their false.
Still trusting in our God's promise. We can see clearly how God
had take care and blessing upon us.
 Scott
Ross
Interesting. So, not just a loss of over 30% of the general
fellowship, but at least a similar amount of elders..... all due to
interference by foreigners. I would be willing to bet there will be
more following the need to place their trust in Christ rather than
foreign workers who don't care for the church, but rather their
power.
I feel sad for any other workers who have been laboring in Vietnam
over the years. They must be really hurting to see how Dale has once
again destroyed something that they have been laboring in love to
establish and nurture.
I hope that some people who are in Dale's area let them know how
they feel about all this. It is obvious this isn't just some recent
abuse of power, but has been ongoing for several years. This group
who is following Christ rather than Dale, have made it clear that
they are Christians, and not Daleians. Good for them, and I hope
more of the friends there who are troubled by these developments
follow Christ as well.
A lot quicker decline than what took place in North America, and
much more evident to all reading and watching, but similar results.
I wonder if we will see such drastic decline now in other areas
where the overseers are trying to impose their man made rules.
Minh
Thanh
1 Friends
in Saigon coming to visit friends in countryside (Binh Long)
2 On
the way to one of the house of friends
3 Joy
of meeting again
4 Friends
in the countryside
5 A
gathering in the countryside
6 Singing
Hymn
7 Preparing
for the meal
1) We are 16 friends sharing the cost of hiring a van to Binh Long,
according to the ability of each one. (Some among us very poor, but
they long for visiting friends in the countryside for encouragement
together)
2) Going aross the rubber forest to their place.
3) Two of us are Thanh & Bình with sister Hỷ in the middle. Our
names going together bring the meaning "Joyful in Peace"
4) In the right of uncle Hoa is the couple at this place Mr Hóa &
Mrs Hỷ (my cousin). The rest are living in Phuoc Long, they had
travel a long way to come through the rubber forest more than two
hours in the motobike. Very hard for our friends to come.
5) We are gathering inside the room with 23 friends, here some
unprofessed sitting in the kitchen to listen. This is the first time
the electricity reach to this place, after 38 years living there
without eletricity. Today they just have the electric cooker.
6) Our gathering in the room. 23 friends & 3 children.
7) One sister friends in Dalat support for this meal (a very simple
soup). More than 10 friends in Phuoc Long & Bình Long. Just only 2
friends still in 2x2 fellowship. But full of sadness, he sent a
message through his cell phone to all F&W, asking workers solve the
mess for restoring the love and unity as before. (He said the
workers causing this proplem, so they had to solve it).
We never reach to the number 300. Just around 250 before the mess.
In the North, many young students professed in the beginning, almost
of them followed in a short time then stopped. The number in the
North now a round 20. Two friends who were close to uncle Châu were
chased out of their fellowship by two elders, because they didn't
welcome workers to their home. (Two elders are very rich, this
couple very poor)
Many young friends in the South stopped due to not seeing any unity
among workers. They try to have a comfortable life as workers, but
in another way. They spend all their time in studying or working for
earning much money as possible they can.
The number now is around 200 friends, almost the friends in the
countryside still going on as ever. Many new and rich friends in
big city belong to 2x2 fellowship. Rich in money but poor in love.
They don't unite & cooperate in God's work much as we have.
So you can visualize like this. More than a half of friends still
going on with God as ever. (one native worker uncle Hoa and many old
elders still have close working together as in the past) .
The rest friends almost in the big city, many among which are rich
people. The elders are new too.
We can't count the number, because we do know much among them not
safisfy with their atmosphere in the fellowship. Anyway the number
of golden friends still a litlte bigger...
We thanks for God still reigning, taking care and keeping us, who
want to serve God with whole hearted.
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